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cov
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I remember taj riding a tv style comp in maybe LA? Where the ramps got dew on them and it sort of got cancelled or something and never happened again
That's must have cost a few quid.

Schwinn bmx?

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Was that the LG contest or something? Pretty sure it was on USA Netowrk.
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Maybe Eastern's Ezra/Guerra attempt?

Levi's BMX program?

K-Rob's Grindzzzz?

Any DVD project in the last 5 years?

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Think I've only ever seen one kid riding a Mirraco.
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the contest in russia last year that was their version of the x-games and that was build but never used.
i doubt that building a big air ramp is cheap.

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yeah the schwinn team was a real failure

*facepalm*

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The Citicat project that Fiola was briefly attached to

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I don't think the bikes were ever sold.

the movie Rad maybe? That was supposed to be a blockbuster hit, it bombed in theaters.

ESPN's X-Games parks in malls had to be pretty expensive when you talk about build costs and the rent in such huge spaces in malls. Skateparks are such a horrible business model, I don't know how anyone makes money on them.

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PTO: "What's the least expensive failure in bmx history?"

Answer: BMXBOARD traveling jean jacket

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quote:
Originally posted by typoll69420:
PTO: "What's the least expensive failure in bmx history?"

Answer: BMXBOARD


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COLLATERAL BMX
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quote:
Originally posted by Bmxer 2025:
Nigel

haaa

As far as products go I'll vote for Specialized making those crazy expensive frames with the weird dropouts. The frames retailed for 800 bucks back in 2003. I can't imagine many were sold.

Eastern for sure though. In recent times I can't think of another company that fucked up that bad. Do they still sponsor Adam Banton?

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RAD...

Budget - $11 million
Box office - $2 million

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quote:
Originally posted by poopface:
quote:
Originally posted by Bmxer 2025:
Nigel

haaa

As far as products go I'll vote for Specialized making those crazy expensive frames with the weird dropouts. The frames retailed for 800 bucks back in 2003. I can't imagine many were sold.

Eastern for sure though. In recent times I can't think of another company that fucked up that bad. Do they still sponsor Adam Banton?

Specialized S Works 🤢
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primo dropping all the late 90s, early 00s team.

stranger hiring LZ.

and, yes

Nigel.

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quote:
Originally posted by navaz@standpoint:
RAD...

Budget - $11 million
Box office - $2 million

Crazy to think that movie cost that much to make...in 1986 dollars, considering most people could easily retire on 1/4 of that. What the hell were they spending all that money on?
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quote:
Originally posted by Bmxer 2025:
Nigel


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quote:
Originally posted by Beerman:
Think I've only ever seen one kid riding a Mirraco.

I see/saw quite a few here. And Kijiji is riddled with the things.

quote:
Originally posted by navaz@standpoint:
RAD...

Budget - $11 million
Box office - $2 million

Holy shit.
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There was an article in an Albion about the opening ceremony at the London olympics. A shitload of ramps were built and a ton of riders and choreographers were hired and subsequently paid but the segment was removed for lack of time. That had to cost a ton and considering it was only for a fifteen minute segment, it could be one of the most substantial losses, no?
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i heard odyssey electronical cost well over a million and most of it was 24p
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quote:
Originally posted by mang:
There was an article in an Albion about the opening ceremony at the London olympics. A shitload of ramps were built and a ton of riders and choreographers were hired and subsequently paid but the segment was removed for lack of time. That had to cost a ton and considering it was only for a fifteen minute segment, it could be one of the most substantial losses, no?

I never knew that. I worked on the Closing Ceremonies show in 1996 in Atlanta. Most of the people were volunteers though. I'm not sure how much the riders got paid, I'm guessing it wasn't much. Brook from Senate Clothing (remember them) told me the rollerbladers weren't getting paid though, so who knows. They did bring in Hollywood choreographer/asshole Kenny Ortega to direct (actually Hoffman did all the blocking of the BMX stuff) you know that guy had to make at least several hundred thousand.
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quote:
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i heard odyssey electronical cost well over a million and most of it was 24p

Id find that pretty hard to believe...

even with Chad Shack running it.

I think Giant's foray into BMX would have to be up there, they paid some big cash to certain people.

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1m isn't such a gigantic number... consider all the shit they built for the intros, tons of international plane tickets bought for everyone, taj renting a highschool, a bunch of filmers, the size of the team (salary might have been included in that number), but yea, most of all the chad shack.

Electronical wasn't really a failure in my eyes entirely, i was being kinda harsh. there were some good but somewhat forgotten sections... Aitken, Gary Young, Jim C, Levan, Chase, Aaron. everything chad was touching at that time was kind of uninspired for sure though.

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chad [girlpants] shackleberg never sent me my dbz stickers* or returned my email about it. please share stories about him being shitty/overpaid.

*i still owe salty some patches for that

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quote:
Originally posted by vestige toy:
1m isn't such a gigantic number... consider all the shit they built for the intros, tons of international plane tickets bought for everyone, taj renting a highschool, a bunch of filmers, the size of the team (salary might have been included in that number), but yea, most of all the chad shack.

Electronical wasn't really a failure in my eyes entirely, i was being kinda harsh. there were some good but somewhat forgotten sections... Aitken, Gary Young, Jim C, Levan, Chase, Aaron. everything chad was touching at that time was kind of uninspired for sure though.

I know it can all add up, but to put things in perspective, Girl 'Yeah Right' came in around $1M in total cost, and it was a far bigger production than Electronical, that went on for nearly 5 years. I'd suspect Ody spent closer to 3-400k at a speculative guess.

As good as the Deadline video was, that whole brand disappeared pretty quick... #veryrare #streetwear

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if Electronical cost more than $250k, including any and every reasonable expense they could piggyback on it, i would be stunned
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damn Yeah Right was really only 1 million?

IDK, i never saw spreadsheets, but i did hear it from a reliable inside source who reportedly was just trying to see what was possible

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The music is terrible. I hope they didn't pay for it.
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I had spent about $300 on ti spokes. Lasted about 6 months on my bike.
Given, it's not a million dollars but to 16 year old me, I broke the bank

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quote:
Originally posted by typoll69420:
Answer: BMXBOARD


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quote:
Originally posted by Kyle I:
quote:
Originally posted by typoll69420:
Answer: BMXBOARD


bmxboard has outlasted many companies, contest series, shoe deals, and lucrative sweetened beverage contracts
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MIKE SPINNER
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quote:
Originally posted by ebim:
quote:
Originally posted by Kyle I:
quote:
Originally posted by typoll69420:
Answer: BMXBOARD


bmxboard has outlasted many companies, contest series, shoe deals, and lucrative sweetened beverage contracts
We've produced a frame, countless t-shirts, stickers and even had an ad in challenger issue #1.

Pretty sure bmxboard is the most profitable brand in all of bmx history.

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We should have brokered a deal for pay per click with meat spin. We'd all be rich.
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Im sure we'll outlast Mike Spinner's protein powder company too

the rothschild's of BMX

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We have represented our ethos at many of the premiere BMX events in the last decade, most notably Texas Toast.

I went all the way with bmxboard - again meeting arriaga while fully kitted in a siihbap shirt on a siihbap frame was hilarious

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^ someone bring a tank next time
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dbz recounted this story from his time at primo.

apparently the v-monster tire or the wall (can't recall which) was actually a very high quality tire, designed and rated for up to 120 psi.

but due to a typo on the original tooling, the sidewall only said 60 psi. they could've sold a ton more tires for a ton more money, but they decided it wasn't worth paying to fix the typo. i think they even continued the typo with subsequent runs after the original mold was used up.

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Director forks

"yo, your forks are bent"

"nah they're stronger than normal forks"

*laughter ensues*

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Still ride them, and since they don't make them anymore i'll probably never change them.
I do get the 'your forks are bent' every single time at the park, so now i say 'only a little' and keep riding :-)

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how did i guess that out of ALL the people to have them still, it would be you
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quote:
Originally posted by kineticbmx:
Director forks

"yo, your forks are bent"

"nah they're stronger than normal forks"

*laughter ensues*

I got a pair for free, and had to deal with this for awhile. Ugh.
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Every pair of the bent prongs i saw cracked at the welds

they miraculously disappeared from sight and sale not long after.

*more laughter ensues*

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I fucked up & bought a Standard fork last year, which was welded incorrectly & took months to sort out, and ended up running Directors for a minute and felt like a complete asshole the entire time.

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How many failed pay skateparks have come and gone over the years? Seems like the world's worst business model -

1.) Spend tens (or hundreds) of thousands of dollars building enough ramps to fill a 50,000 sq foot. warehouse (or if you are ESPN or Vans, the mall)

2.) charge $20 a 2 or 4 hour session

3.) Hire a few stoned guys and a girl with a septum piercing to man the register and check wristbands.

4.) 200 kids show up every session the first week. The place is so packed nobody can get much riding done.

5.) Have the 20 best riders become "team" riders who ride for free.

6.) Team riders get their friends in (free wristband from septum piercing girl)

7.) Month 2 - 40 riders show up a session - 10 team riders and 30 others

8.) Month 6 - 15 riders show up a session - 10 team riders and 10 others, 5 of whom pay to get in. Sessions aren't monitored closely and it's easy to stay all day if you want.

9.) Month 10 - 4 team riders and 2 bored girlfriends show up per session. Nobody pays for anything.

10) Month 16 - 30 people show up and pay on the coldest/rainiest day of the year.

11.) Month 18 - The sun comes out and 3 team riders ride per session. Of the remaining session, 2 quit due to injuries, 2 just got bored and quit, 1 went to work at a grow op, 1 married the septum piercing girl and moved away, and 1 is in jail.

12.) Park owner realizes too late that they've started a business aimed at a group of individuals (adolescent, jobless boys and mostly directionless 20 somethings) who are statistically guaranteed to have almost zero spending power.

13.) Park shuts down, ramps sold for pennies on the dollar, a trampoline park opens in the space, and the owner of the park starts looking into getting a Laser Tag business going.

14.) Team rider and septum piercing girl start thinking about how cool it would be if THEY owned a business like a skatepark....

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quote:
Originally posted by D:
How many failed pay skateparks have come and gone over the years? Seems like the world's worst business model -

1.) Spend tens (or hundreds) of thousands of dollars building enough ramps to fill a 50,000 sq foot. warehouse (or if you are ESPN or Vans, the mall)

2.) charge $20 a 2 or 4 hour session

3.) Hire a few stoned guys and a girl with a septum piercing to man the register and check wristbands.

4.) 200 kids show up every session the first week. The place is so packed nobody can get much riding done.

5.) Have the 20 best riders become "team" riders who ride for free.

6.) Team riders get their friends in (free wristband from septum piercing girl)

7.) Month 2 - 40 riders show up a session - 10 team riders and 30 others

8.) Month 6 - 15 riders show up a session - 10 team riders and 10 others, 5 of whom pay to get in. Sessions aren't monitored closely and it's easy to stay all day if you want.

9.) Month 10 - 4 team riders and 2 bored girlfriends show up per session. Nobody pays for anything.

10) Month 16 - 30 people show up and pay on the coldest/rainiest day of the year.

11.) Month 18 - The sun comes out and 3 team riders ride per session. Of the remaining session, 2 quit due to injuries, 2 just got bored and quit, 1 went to work at a grow op, 1 married the septum piercing girl and moved away, and 1 is in jail.

12.) Park owner realizes too late that they've started a business aimed at a group of individuals (adolescent, jobless boys and mostly directionless 20 somethings) who are statistically guaranteed to have almost zero spending power.

13.) Park shuts down, ramps sold for pennies on the dollar, a trampoline park opens in the space, and the owner of the park starts looking into getting a Laser Tag business going.

14.) Team rider and septum piercing girl start thinking about how cool it would be if THEY owned a business like a skatepark....

There's always exceptions.. Transitions has been open for almost 20 years now. Suchan has been running it for at least 10? That place still seems to be profitable for him, albeit it's not a big moneymaker.
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^^
To quote Homer Simpson:it's funny cause it's true!

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Chenga 2 is the last Chenga park running & it still manages to make money. Most of the users are on scooters and skateboards, but even with an outdated layout & Ray's down the road, there are a chunk of riders that prefer their resi setup & the mini is still decent.

The Ray's business model is much, much more successful.

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D with the truth.

RIP OLD FLOW ILL NEVER FORGET YOU

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Add insane insurance costs onto running a park and things get snowballing, quick

only way it could survive is if you're militant about making everyone pay, even the team riders.

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I think the other thing that can really keep a park afloat is a good "proshop". I know I'm mentioning the same park again, but Transitions seems to sell a ton of skate, bmx, scooter, and even graffiti stuff. I'd have to imagine good weeks selling scooters and completes are what really keep them afloat.

And again, getting into the skatepark business to make money will never work. If suchan wasn't a smart money man who has a good full time job he'd likely never run a skatepark.

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kineticbmx
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parks in Australia mainly survive due to the parents of scooter kids treating the skate park like a kindergarten.

drop em off in the AM... pick em up in the PM

$25 a day for daycare is cheaper than ANY daycare facility.

seems to be the business model to follow.

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the lobster messiah
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quote:
Originally posted by BKFBM:

The Ray's business model is much, much more successful.

Acquiring corporate sponsorship and targeting the 26-34 demographic with disposable income on $3000 bikes?
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quote:
Originally posted by kineticbmx:
parks in Australia mainly survive due to the parents of scooter kids treating the skate park like a kindergarten.

drop em off in the AM... pick em up in the PM

$25 a day for daycare is cheaper than ANY daycare facility.

seems to be the business model to follow.

Definitely. The Vans/Woodward/EXPN/Black Rock parks in the malls all went for the babysitting model, I thought they would've lasted longer. I can't imagine the rent on a 50,000 sq foot mall space though.
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quote:
Originally posted by the lobster messiah:
quote:
Originally posted by BKFBM:

The Ray's business model is much, much more successful.

Acquiring corporate sponsorship and targeting the 26-34 demographic with disposable income on $3000 bikes?
It also is really helped by being somewhere where the weather isn't the greatest. Here in Atl, there are probably a dozen free outdoor parks that you can ride anytime you want. Generally it's warm enough to ride in all but January and February, sometimes even then, so paying to ride inside isn't something most people want to do.
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quote:
Originally posted by kineticbmx:
parks in Australia mainly survive due to the parents of scooter kids treating the skate park like a kindergarten.

Also it is ungodly hot there and if you ride outside you pretty much die.

(maybe just my experience)

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kineticbmx
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Opposite in fact.

no one has money to air condition an indoor skatepark, and most of them are in metal sheds that end up double the temperature inside as they are out

outdoor parks early morning or late afternoons are the only tolerable time to ride there

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quote:
Originally posted by the lobster messiah:
quote:
Originally posted by BKFBM:

The Ray's business model is much, much more successful.

Acquiring corporate sponsorship and targeting the 26-34 demographic with disposable income on $3000 bikes?
it's not just that, but also providing a facility that accommodates riders of all ages & skill levels, therefore inviting whole families to take part. ray's makes large profits every year, guaranteed more that any indoor park past or present.
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Isn't that part of the reason why the Milwaukee location closed up shop? I heard that the landlord knew it was profitable (due in part to private backing + Trek), spiked the rent, and they closed the doors instead of paying the increased rent.

So steamed it's closed.

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quote:
Originally posted by the lobster messiah:
Isn't that part of the reason why the Milwaukee location closed up shop? I heard that the landlord knew it was profitable (due in part to private backing + Trek), spiked the rent, and they closed the doors instead of paying the increased rent.

So steamed it's closed.

absolutely not. a: that location was never profitable for a variety of reasons; b: trek wanted out of bike park business as it "didn't fit their business model", which may have been partially due to increased rent but the cleveland location always made money; c: there was a buyer in place to take over the park but the landlord made it too difficult/expensive for anyone else to take over - they essentially tried to get a free business out of trek, who wasn't having that. milwaukee was doomed from the beginning for a variety of reasons, really.

[ 08-31-2017, 12:43 PM: Message edited by: BKFBM ]

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Huh. The more you know. That makes total sense.

That location did fucking suck. I remember thinking I made a wrong turn taking my first trip there from Chicago (having been to Milwaukee many times before), then doing the math and realizing that even though it was municipally in Milwaukee, it was 17+ miles away from downtown.

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quote:
Originally posted by the lobster messiah:
Huh. The more you know. That makes total sense.

That location did fucking suck. I remember thinking I made a wrong turn taking my first trip there from Chicago (having been to Milwaukee many times before), then doing the math and realizing that even though it was municipally in Milwaukee, it was 17+ miles away from downtown.

Another huge advantage for Cleveland, the park is actually only about 3mi from downtown and only a mile or so off of a few different highways.
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don't feel bad pieter, one year for my birthday i was gifted taj's lightly used prototype directors almost as a joke because the fellas knew i wouldn't not have a boner over it - then five years went by, ha fucking ha
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having a 7 month old, the idea of dropping them off at a skatepark and returning later is a fucking retarded idea

ABSOFUCKINGLUTELY NOT

lol

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quote:
Originally posted by fbmuthafker:
don't feel bad pieter, one year for my birthday i was gifted taj's lightly used prototype directors almost as a joke because the fellas knew i wouldn't not have a boner over it - then five years went by, ha fucking ha

...and the boner has still not gone down...
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quote:
Originally posted by fbmuthafker:
having a 7 month old, the idea of dropping them off at a skatepark and returning later is a fucking retarded idea

ABSOFUCKINGLUTELY NOT

lol

Just think of all the shopping and wine drinking you'd get done when you've driven your Audi SUV to the skatepark to drop the turds off for the next 7 hours!
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