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Author
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Topic: dig issue 70 unofficial overspill...my rejected video reviews
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twincitiesbmx
rider
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posted 05-05-2009 01:46 PM
   
just decided to post them up on our blog...
http://teamdilly.blogspot.com/ 
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commercialrider
rider
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posted 05-05-2009 01:48 PM
I think The Shadow Conspiracy should stick to marketing their streetwear to mall goth kids.YES!
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BKFBM
noob
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posted 05-05-2009 01:55 PM
Pretty obvious why those didn't get printed, although the S&M review was pretty tame compared to Shadow's. Defending Delvin, I believe there was a statement on the Shadow site around the time he quit/put out the video stating that it was the teams decision to put his part last.
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twincitiesbmx
rider
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posted 05-05-2009 02:03 PM
quote:
Originally posted by BKFBM:
Pretty obvious why those didn't get printed, although the S&M review was pretty tame compared to Shadow's. Defending Delvin, I believe there was a statement on the Shadow site around the time he quit/put out the video stating that it was the teams decision to put his part last.
yeah, i just sort of assumed they wanted me to talk shit. and i dont know man...i wouldn't give a fuck what anyone voted, i'd still refuse to put myself last.
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metal mulisha
rider
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posted 05-05-2009 02:20 PM
Those were pretty straight forward/honest video reviews. They weren't even shit talky, in my opinion.
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twincitiesbmx
rider
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posted 05-05-2009 02:22 PM
quote:
Originally posted by metal mulisha:
Those were pretty straight forward/honest video reviews. They weren't even shit talky, in my opinion.
thats how i felt, aside from maybe a comment or two thrown in for comedic purposes. whatever.
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alistairheeley
rider
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posted 05-05-2009 02:24 PM
The comments about the music in the Shadow video are so true, Eli Platt's song is not what I would ever listen to normally on my iPod or whatever, but in the video it stands head and shoulders above the rest. The best of a bad bunch.Where was the Karl Poynter critique?
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sandiegobmx
noob
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posted 05-05-2009 02:29 PM
I don't disagree with most of the points...I'm actually somewhat surprised they rejected the S&M review. The Shadow one read like, "I don't like Shadow, so everything this video about sucks." And when I say "like," I mean that's exactly what you said in so many words. I liked the video; I thought it had a dark, fast feel and was pretty into the flow of it, even though it's nothing like me or what I'm typically into. After you do enough of these things, you really have to get over calling out shit that as a video maker, you don't like, because there's going to be something in every video. And even when you like the video as a whole, when you say one little thing got on your nerves, it changes the whole tone of the review into somewhat negative. And I mean that in the smallest sense, like mentioning Randy's banger...if the video is fucked, say that the video is fucked.
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EarlyNovemberBMX
rider
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posted 05-05-2009 02:31 PM
NOTHING IS BAD EVERYTHING IS GOOD BRO! IF U GOT SHIT 2 SAY TEHN SHOW ME UR VIDEO FAGIT
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VxD
rider
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posted 05-05-2009 02:32 PM
Your reviews are terrible, and maybe that's why Dig didn't run them.
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Kyle I
rider
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posted 05-05-2009 02:34 PM
quote:
Originally posted by metal mulisha:
Those were pretty straight forward/honest video reviews. They weren't even shit talky, in my opinion.
I really don't see any reason at all not to be printed. Just seems like an excellent example of the dick sucking and back patting that BMX can't seem to stray away from.
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EarlyNovemberBMX
rider
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posted 05-05-2009 02:35 PM
quote:
Originally posted by sandiegobmx:
After you do enough of these things, you really have to get over calling out shit that as a video maker, you don't like, because there's going to be something in every video.
So he should just keep his opinion to himself even though he's hired to give his opinion? Why even write a review?
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gregarette
rider
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posted 05-05-2009 02:35 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Kyle I:
I really don't see any reason at all not to be printed. Just seems like an excellent example of the dick sucking and back patting that BMX can't seem to stray away from.
Nicely said Mr. Iwanicki.
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VxD
rider
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posted 05-05-2009 02:39 PM
quote:
Originally posted by EarlyNovemberBMX:
So he should just keep his opinion to himself even though he's hired to give his opinion? Why even write a review?
What he's saying is, you write a 15 sentence review and devote 2 sentences to some little niggling detail that bothered you, you're putting a negative spin on the whole review that's out of proportion with the problem.
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alistairheeley
rider
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posted 05-05-2009 02:40 PM
quote:
Originally posted by sandiegobmx:
I liked the video
It's not your review, his opinion is that he didn't like it, if you'd written it then obviously it would've been different. He's supposed to contribute an opinion, it doesn't make it fact. Fuck it, I dunno what the point of this is. [This message has been edited by alistairheeley (edited 05-05-2009).]
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mattistupid
rider
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posted 05-05-2009 02:41 PM
Faction was sweet. We need more tits and mayhem instead of army and monster ads.
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sandiegobmx
noob
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posted 05-05-2009 02:41 PM
No, that was my review. In that post.
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andrewreynolds
rider
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posted 05-05-2009 02:42 PM
quote:
Originally posted by VxD:
Your reviews are terrible, and maybe that's why Dig didn't run them.
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EarlyNovemberBMX
rider
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posted 05-05-2009 02:44 PM
quote:
Originally posted by VxD:
What he's saying is, you write a 15 sentence review and devote 2 sentences to some little niggling detail that bothered you, you're putting a negative spin on the whole review that's out of proportion with the problem.
So what? If he felt it needed to be said, it should be included.
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BKFBM
noob
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posted 05-05-2009 02:44 PM
It's definitely an example of trying to keep sponsors happy, but Fudger brings up a couple points:A) it can be tough to be objective about a video when you already dislike the company. While I haven't seen this Shadow video, the old one was edited in a way that fit the image of the brand. I can only guess that's how the new one came out. By already hating Shadow, even though you might like the style of the riders themselves, there is an underlying notion that you won't like the video. B) While not necessarily calling out Kyle, it might be somewhat tough to be objective in video reviews; especially when it comes to editing. That can be argued, though, because I can barely hold a camera and I agreed with the S&M review.
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alistairheeley
rider
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posted 05-05-2009 02:47 PM
quote:
Originally posted by sandiegobmx:
No, that was my review. In that post.
Haha, well exactly, everyone's would be different. Personally, I like that he speaks his mind, I hate reading really good reviews of videos only to buy them and find that they are actually pretty bad in terms of video quality or filming. I guess the rest is totally subjective though. Everyone should review videos. [This message has been edited by alistairheeley (edited 05-05-2009).]
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twincitiesbmx
rider
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posted 05-05-2009 02:48 PM
a review is a reflection of opinion. i don't really care if i wrote an all-encompassing review of the videos, and i don't care if i devoted two sentences to one thing i disliked. it's MY review...anything i didn't mention was probably not worth mentioning in my eyes
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mattistupid
rider
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posted 05-05-2009 02:49 PM
Why do we even need video reviews in the fucking first place? This is bikes. Just watch it and shut the fuck up. I don't give a shit if you like it or not.
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DixieBMX
rider
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posted 05-05-2009 02:49 PM
Videos just aren't as special as they used to be. This isn't the saltiness of old age talking.THIS IS REAL TALK. Seriously, everyone has a pro-model part of some kind or another, so we're all pros watching each other's videos. It's all over saturated and weird and I am totally on a tangent now that I am not sure where it is going...
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alistairheeley
rider
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posted 05-05-2009 02:53 PM
Actually, have any big videos been released recently or about to be?The only one I can think of is Sunday. I still haven't seen FUTU yet but I'm definitely gonna buy one. Maybe DVDs now aren't as special as they used to be but I still love getting new ones.
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FEDERAL9
rider
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posted 05-05-2009 02:54 PM
Yeah man, I'm with VxD. These reviews just don't flow as well as some of the stuff you post on here. They seemed forced and almost anti-witty. It seems like you're trying to keep the vitriol, but posit it in a very controlled way. Just rip it.I guess what I'm trying to say is that the reivews you write on here read like you are speaking to me in person. But those read like they were written to be handed in for a 200-level journalism class. Find that bmxboard voice and stick with it.
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sandiegobmx
noob
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posted 05-05-2009 02:55 PM
quote:
Originally posted by mattistupid:
Why do we even need video reviews in the fucking first place? This is bikes. Just watch it and shut the fuck up. I don't give a shit if you like it or not.
We go back and forth about this fairly often. In Ride, we've begun treating videos as a product—-summarizing it more than a reviewing it. List who's in it, the music, the price, the website, and about 120-200 words of what the video is about. I can't help but interject an opinion or two, but I'm completely over the days of tearing apart videos...
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DixieBMX
rider
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posted 05-05-2009 02:57 PM
quote:
Originally posted by alistairheeley:
Actually, have any big videos been released recently or about to be?The only one I can think of is Sunday. I still haven't seen FUTU yet but I'm definitely gonna buy one. Maybe DVDs now aren't as special as they used to be but I still love getting new ones.
The last video that I was pretty amped on getting was Electronical and my immediate impression of it was "underwhelming", though upon later viewings it has grown on me.
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mattistupid
rider
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posted 05-05-2009 02:58 PM
ATTN: Joe CoxI like your videos and I like when you do your tricks opposite.
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gregarette
rider
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posted 05-05-2009 03:02 PM
quote:
Originally posted by mattistupid:
ATTN: navazI like your videos.
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commercialrider
rider
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posted 05-05-2009 04:09 PM
I like your reviews, Kyle. I totally agree with the complaint about giving breather-room between sections. It's the equivalent of building a major motion picture to an epic 15 minute battle sequence climax, and then ending the movie immediately after the antagonist or protagonist is killed. It doesn't allow for the "message" to set in or the audience to recover. The same is true of a bike video part: the viewer needs to be able to comprehend the banger trick in some one's section before delving into another story or section. -bink
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commercialrider
rider
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posted 05-05-2009 04:10 PM
quote:
Originally posted by mattistupid:
Why do we even need video reviews in the fucking first place? This is bikes. Just watch it and shut the fuck up. I don't give a shit if you like it or not.
Yeah, it's totally useless to critique ourselves and make a better product. -bink
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scott63
rider
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posted 05-05-2009 04:17 PM
quote:
Originally posted by VxD:
Your reviews are terrible, and maybe that's why Dig didn't run them.
I never read video reviews because I've never read one that i thought did the video justice (whether positive or negative).
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mattistupid
rider
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posted 05-05-2009 04:41 PM
quote:
Originally posted by commercialrider:
Yeah, it's totally useless to critique ourselves and make a better product.
-bink
You sound like a film student. This is bmx videos we're talking about. There is no story. Kyle's reviews are hardly creative critiques. The last thing we need is a kid that can buy a dinky camera slap a fisheye on it and film his friend doing a feeble telling the bmx community how to make videos. I'll respect his opinions and right to voice them, in fact I agree with a lot of the things he's saying but he really offers nothing. Any rider with common sense can slap together a poorly written 100 word blurb on how well they think a video was made but what do I care? I'll watch it and love it or hate it my worthless opinion wont make it any further than to my friend watching it beside me. There's no point in publishing this stuff. I find it hard to believe that after reading a bmx video review any one company out there is going to take the advice given to them seriously or that any viewer will pass on watching one of these videos after a negative review. To summarize, I don't give a fuck what you think. No one else should either. I'll watch a bmx video to see can cans and tailspinflips, and I don't really care about the in between.
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Not Eddie Roman
the others
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posted 05-05-2009 04:46 PM
Just tell me one thing—is it as good as Nowhere Fast or not? If no, fuck it.
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DrunkBMX
rider
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posted 05-05-2009 04:47 PM
Metal-Dead Bang was pretty good.Banned 3 is gonna be pretty good. Bonedeth is gonna be pretty good. But most videos are made for 12 year olds.
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Not Eddie Roman
the others
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posted 05-05-2009 04:47 PM
Although quote:
Originally posted by twincitiesbmx:
I think The Shadow Conspiracy should stick to marketing their streetwear to mall goth kids.
was outfucking standing. Keep the topic hot.
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antwan
rider
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posted 05-05-2009 05:07 PM
yeah it's pretty easy to see why they didn't run them. you definately seem salty in both. I know that you edit videos so you pay attention to the editing stuff, but most people watch videos for the riding. giving the review that much of a negative tone over a personal editing preference is not very professional, in my opinion. I think mentioning it is fine but from a "rave review" to "meh" is a bit over-dramatic. maybe you should try to give a review that would help your average bmxer decide if they want to see the video. focusing on ancillary bullshit like whether the editor got the last part or there was buildup to the banger is just noise. dig ain't bmxboard.
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commercialrider
rider
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posted 05-05-2009 05:40 PM
quote:
Originally posted by mattistupid:
You sound like a film student. This is bmx videos we're talking about. There is no story. Kyle's reviews are hardly creative critiques. The last thing we need is a kid that can buy a dinky camera slap a fisheye on it and film his friend doing a feeble telling the bmx community how to make videos. To summarize, I don't give a fuck what you think. No one else should either. I'll watch a bmx video to see can cans and tailspinflips, and I don't really care about the in between.
I can respect that. however, who the hell wants to read constructive criticism in a mag? That's not going to be funny at all. -bink
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commercialrider
rider
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posted 05-05-2009 05:41 PM
quote:
Originally posted by DrunkBMX:
Banned 3 is gonna be pretty good. Bonedeth is gonna be pretty good. But most videos are made for 12 year olds.
I can't fucking wait for those. There need to be more x-rated bmx videos. -bink
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EarlyNovemberBMX
rider
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posted 05-05-2009 05:42 PM
quote:
Originally posted by antwan:
dig ain't bmxboard.
Yeah, but it should be.
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legend
rider
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posted 05-05-2009 05:44 PM
quote:
Originally posted by mattistupid:
The last thing we need is a kid that can buy a dinky camera slap a fisheye on it and film his friend doing a feeble telling the bmx community how to make videos.
Actually, Kyle's video is my favourite video of 2009 so far. Granted, I mostly pick up local stuff, but It Do was really good.
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Not Eddie Roman
the others
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posted 05-05-2009 06:24 PM
The irony is that these reviews will now reach a wider audience than they would have had Dig just run them.
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Not Eddie Roman
the others
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posted 05-05-2009 06:25 PM
quote:
Originally posted by commercialrider:
I can respect that. however, who the hell wants to read constructive criticism in a mag? That's not going to be funny at all. -bink
It's all about destructive criticism. BMX, that's why.
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DrunkBMX
rider
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posted 05-05-2009 06:40 PM
Maybe I should look into setting up a bmxboard mag in 14 months. I'm probably gonna have way more income than i know what to do with.
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fitbrian
rider
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posted 05-05-2009 07:46 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Not Eddie Roman:
The irony is that these reviews will now reach a wider audience than they would have had Dig just run them.
haha so true, i thought the reviews were right on point for the most part...
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syrbmx
rider
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posted 05-05-2009 07:50 PM
I'll never understand why everyone thinks the "banger" part in a video or a section has to be the final thing. It just seems stupid and cliche. On top of the fact that what one person may think is a "banger", someone else might not be that impressed by it.edit: spelling [This message has been edited by syrbmx (edited 05-05-2009).]
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syrbmx
rider
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posted 05-05-2009 07:52 PM
double[This message has been edited by syrbmx (edited 05-05-2009).]
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sanjosebmx
rider
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posted 05-05-2009 08:22 PM
Thanks for posting those, Kyle.
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gnfr
rider
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posted 05-05-2009 08:48 PM
you wanna know how to make video reviews wortwhile and interesting? use that space to show some tits that correspond to the video. some itty bitty titties if its a short video. droopy national geographic tits if the video sucked. big ole' tittays if its a big time video. dolly parton's fantastic juggs circa 1981 for van homan's part in criminal mischief good. i don't even care if the tits are under a bikini top or a bra to get past the legal teams. there can never be enough tits in bmx. there ain't a person on earth that doesn't like tits. period. tits.
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Serb
rider
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posted 05-05-2009 10:10 PM
meatspin22
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navaz@standpoint
rider
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posted 05-05-2009 10:58 PM
Why write reviews for DIG anyway? You can just write those reviews from your blog and then you don't have to worry about it getting rejected.
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jojtheidiotcircusboy
rider
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posted 05-05-2009 11:17 PM
quote:
Originally posted by navaz@standpoint:
Why write reviews for DIG anyway? You can just write those reviews from your blog and then you don't have to worry about it getting rejected.
Gain fame, make money.
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MIke
rider
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posted 05-05-2009 11:23 PM
quote:
Originally posted by commercialrider:
The same is true of a bike video part: the viewer needs to be able to comprehend the banger trick in some one's section before delving into another story or section. -bink
you guys are fucking dorks
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navaz@standpoint
rider
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posted 05-06-2009 01:10 AM
quote:
Originally posted by jojtheidiotcircusboy:
Gain fame, make money.
Seriously? I can understand getting paid but I didn't think it was paid. But fame? Haha okay.
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chris c
rider
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posted 05-06-2009 04:49 AM
quote:
Originally posted by MIke:
you guys are fucking dorks
This about sums it up.
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r3s3t
rider
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posted 05-06-2009 07:09 AM
at this point, i enjoy simple web-edits as much as i do full-length bmx videos. all i want is a quick hit of some fun riding and i'm good.
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commercialrider
rider
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posted 05-06-2009 01:07 PM
quote:
Originally posted by navaz@standpoint:
Why write reviews for DIG anyway? You can just write those reviews from your blog and then you don't have to worry about it getting rejected.
Because getting a writing piece published is great for a resume even if it's in a BMX mag. -bink [This message has been edited by commercialrider (edited 05-06-2009).]
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commercialrider
rider
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posted 05-06-2009 01:11 PM
quote:
Originally posted by MIke:
you guys are fucking dorks
No, we just like to analyze, learn and progress at what we do. I think they call that education. -bink
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mattistupid
rider
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posted 05-06-2009 01:14 PM
quote:
Originally posted by commercialrider:
Because getting a writing piece published is great for a resume even if it's in a BMX mag. -bink [This message has been edited by commercialrider (edited 05-06-2009).]
I hope he's not trying to actually become a writer... C'mon...
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commercialrider
rider
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posted 05-06-2009 01:53 PM
quote:
Originally posted by mattistupid:
I hope he's not trying to actually become a writer... C'mon...
I doubt he is, but it will still look good on a resume. -bink
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twincitiesbmx
rider
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posted 05-06-2009 02:15 PM
quote:
Originally posted by mattistupid:
I hope he's not trying to actually become a writer... C'mon...
haha...even if i was, what in the fuck do you know? figure you got my writing ability pegged after two video reviews? maybe my intent was more comedic than trying to sound like a sophisticated writer, eh? go fuck yourself, faggot. if you don't like reviews then don't fucking read them.
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DixieBMX
rider
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posted 05-06-2009 02:16 PM
seems pretty fucking sophisticated to me.fuckin' know what i'm sayin'?
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drewl4130
rider
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posted 05-06-2009 02:50 PM
i dont remember the last time i had my panties in a bunch to watch a bike video
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rooftop999
rider
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posted 05-06-2009 04:10 PM
quote:
Originally posted by twincitiesbmx:
haha...even if i was, what in the fuck do you know? figure you got my writing ability pegged after two video reviews? maybe my intent was more comedic than trying to sound like a sophisticated writer, eh? go fuck yourself, faggot. if you don't like reviews then don't fucking read them.
ooooo sumbuddy wans to be a wyter!
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mattistupid
rider
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posted 05-06-2009 06:57 PM
quote:
Originally posted by twincitiesbmx:
haha...even if i was, what in the fuck do you know? figure you got my writing ability pegged after two video reviews? maybe my intent was more comedic than trying to sound like a sophisticated writer, eh? go fuck yourself, faggot. if you don't like reviews then don't fucking read them.
lol u mad
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antwan
rider
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posted 05-07-2009 08:51 AM
quote:
Originally posted by drewl4130:
i dont remember the last time i had my panties in a bunch to watch a bike video
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TXrider
rider
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posted 05-07-2009 09:31 AM
quote:
Originally posted by DixieBMX:
Videos just aren't as special as they used to be. It's all over saturated.
Agreed.
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Wheelie Nelson
rider
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posted 05-07-2009 10:51 AM
Did Dig really think that this would turn out any different?They hired a salty young guy to write about videos...
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fingerbutt
rider
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posted 05-07-2009 11:36 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Wheelie Nelson:
Did Dig really think that this would turn out any different?They hired an unknowledgeable young guy to write about videos...
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commercialrider
rider
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posted 05-07-2009 04:11 PM
quote:
Originally posted by fingerbutt:
To call Kyle "unknowledgeable" in bike videos is like saying Emeril doesn't know shit about cooking. Kyle is the biggest bike video nerd I've ever met. Combine that with the fact he's made three full length videos and hundreds of web edits, most of which were prior to the recent webit explosion, and you have yourself the goddamn Ebert of BMX video criticism. Plus, I'm sure kyle knows that "unknowledgeable" isn't in the fucking dictionary. bink
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mattistupid
rider
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posted 05-07-2009 04:25 PM
There's a difference between doing something and being good at doing something.Watch this and tell me he's a video guru... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mR-y27HzX_c Maybe I should review it!
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EarlyNovemberBMX
rider
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posted 05-07-2009 04:34 PM
quote:
Originally posted by mattistupid:
There's a difference between doing something and being good at doing something.Watch this and tell me he's a video guru... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mR-y27HzX_c Maybe I should review it!
I think he said even said himself that it was thrown together really quickly because he didn't want to edit it. Relax guy.
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fingerbutt
rider
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posted 05-07-2009 04:49 PM
quote:
Originally posted by commercialrider:
To call Kyle "unknowledgeable" in bike videos is like saying Emeril doesn't know shit about cooking. Kyle is the biggest bike video nerd I've ever met. Combine that with the fact he's made three full length videos and hundreds of web edits, most of which were prior to the recent webit explosion, and you have yourself the goddamn Ebert of BMX video criticism. Plus, I'm sure kyle knows that "unknowledgeable" isn't in the fucking dictionary. bink
LOL U DUM
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/unknowledgeable
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mattistupid
rider
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posted 05-07-2009 05:04 PM
quote:
Originally posted by EarlyNovemberBMX:
I think he said even said himself that it was thrown together really quickly because he didn't want to edit it. Relax guy.
I'm relaxed. I read that, it's not only the edit in question.
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dillybars
rider
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posted 05-07-2009 05:23 PM
quote:
Originally posted by mattistupid:
I'm relaxed. I read that, it's not only the edit in question.
gay
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fingerbutt
rider
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posted 05-07-2009 05:35 PM
quote:
Originally posted by dillybars:
gay
U R your boy can talk shit about everyone else, but you pussies get your labes irritated when anyone calls him out for being a hack. which he is SUCK A DICK YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TROOF
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VxD
rider
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posted 05-07-2009 05:40 PM
quote:
Originally posted by commercialrider:
the goddamn Ebert of BMX video criticism.
O RLY?
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vestige toy
rider
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posted 05-07-2009 05:54 PM
quote:
Originally posted by mattistupid:
There's a difference between doing something and being good at doing something.Watch this and tell me he's a video guru... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mR-y27HzX_c Maybe I should review it!
honestly i'd rather watch that than an hd mutiny web video. it is what it is, just because it isn't your style doesn't mean you should hate on it.
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EarlyNovemberBMX
rider
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posted 05-07-2009 06:01 PM
quote:
Originally posted by mattistupid:
I'm relaxed. I read that, it's not only the edit in question.
He also didn't film any of it, if that's what your problem is. Our buddy Seth did (he'll be the first to admit he isn't all that great at filming). Not sure what your beef with Kyle is, but hey, Dig felt he was qualified to write reviews. Seems if it was your decision, you probably would've chosen someone else to do it. Bummer for you, I guess.
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mattistupid
rider
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posted 05-07-2009 06:04 PM
quote:
Originally posted by vestige toy:
it is what it is, just because it isn't your style doesn't mean you should hate on it.
But "reviews" are cool right?
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Serb
rider
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posted 05-07-2009 06:58 PM
quote:
Originally posted by fingerbutt:
SUCK A DICK YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TROOF
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MIke
rider
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posted 05-08-2009 12:25 AM
quote:
Originally posted by MIke:
you guys are fucking dorks
still
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dillybars
rider
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posted 05-08-2009 12:31 AM
quote:
Originally posted by fingerbutt:
U Ryour boy can talk shit about everyone else, but you pussies get your labes irritated when anyone calls him out for being a hack. which he is SUCK A DICK YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TROOF
i rarely defend him on here but in my opinion he isn't a hack, at all. how is kyle a hack?
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nwrider
rider
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posted 05-08-2009 12:32 AM
This is in order for both parties.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7p4mioawIA
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FEDERAL 4130
rider
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posted 05-08-2009 01:18 AM
A lonely mother gazing out of her window
Staring at a son that she just can't touch
If at any time he's in a jam
She'll be by his side
But he doesn't realize he needs her so much
But all the praying just ain't helping at all
Cause he can't seem to keep himself out of trouble
So he goes out and he makes his money the best way he knows how
Another body laying cold in the gutter
Listen to meDon't go chasing waterfalls
Please stick to the rivers and the lakes that
You're used to
I know that your gonna have it your way
Or nothing at all
But I think your'e moving too fast Little precious has a natural obsession
For tempation but he just can't see
She gives him loving that his body can't handle
But all he can say is baby it's good to me
One day he goes and takes a glimpse in the mirror
But he doesn't recognize his own face
His health is fading and he doesn't know why
3 letters took him to his final resting place Don't go chasing waterfalls
Please stick to the rivers and the lakes that
You're used to
I know that your gonna have it your way
Or nothing at all
But I think your'e moving too fast
Don't go chasing waterfalls
Please stick to the rivers and the lakes that
You're used to
I know that your gonna have it your way
Or nothing at all
But I think your'e moving too fast Ive seen a rainbow yesterday
But too many storms have come and gone
Leavin' a trace of not one God given ray
Is it because my life is ten shades of gray
I pray all ten fade away
Seldom praise Him for the sunny days
And like his promise is true
Only my faith can undo
The many chances I blew
To bring my life to anew
Clear blue and unconditional skies
Have dried the tears from my eyes
No more lonely cries
My only bleedin' hope
Is for the folk who can't cope
Wit such an endurin' pain
That it keeps em' in the pourin' rain
Who's to blame
For tootin' caine into your own vein
What a shame
You shoot and aim for someone else's brain
You claim the insane
And name this day in time
For fallin' prey to crime
I say the system got you victim to your own mind
Dreams and hopeless aspirations
In hopes of comin' true
Beleive in yourself
The rest is up to me and you Don't go chasing waterfalls
Please stick to the rivers and the lakes that
You're used to
I know that your gonna have it your way
Or nothing at all
But I think your'e moving too fast
Don't go chasing waterfalls
Please stick to the rivers and the lakes that
You're used to
I know that your gonna have it your way
Or nothing at all
But I think you're moving too fast
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rooftop999
rider
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posted 05-08-2009 01:18 AM
quote:
Originally posted by vestige toy:
it is what it is, just because it isn't your style doesn't mean you should hate on it.
From what I've read, isn't that essentially what this whole thread about? A guy inserting his own "hate" on videos that aren't to his stylistic liking? I don't give a fuck either way. Last time I checked doing 180s off curbs and manualing parking spaces is more enjoyable than reading a blog of rejected video reviews written by someone who feels his opinion on such matters accounts for anything more than a dingleberry. Its all a bunch of convoluted cunts nit picking videos as if anyone truly gives a shit. Oh but its 'art,' right? To those that do give a fuck about one twenty-somethings opinion on a video: my congratulations on being a total boner. Either way, something about sucking a dick and 720ing is applicable here.
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Salty
rider
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posted 05-08-2009 01:47 AM
i manualed a two foot high ledge today......banger worthy?
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abamosh
the others
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posted 05-08-2009 01:54 AM
I saw the sign, it opened up my eyes I saw the sign
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rooftop999
rider
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posted 05-08-2009 01:56 AM
Life is demanding without understanding.
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EarlyNovemberBMX
rider
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posted 05-08-2009 01:57 AM
quote:
Originally posted by rooftop999:
blog of rejected video reviews written by someone who feels his opinion on such matters accounts for anything more than a dingleberry.
I'll point out (yet again) that Dig approached Kyle to write video reviews, not vice versa. Kyle doesn't necessarily think that his opinion matters, but Dig DOES think so.
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rooftop999
rider
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posted 05-08-2009 02:01 AM
quote:
Originally posted by EarlyNovemberBMX:
I'll point out (yet again) that Dig approached Kyle to write video reviews, not vice versa. Kyle doesn't necessarily think that his opinion matters, but Dig DOES think so.
Wait? Really? Because it hasn't been said six or seven times already. I'm happy Dig gives a fuck about their video reviews. My main point was that giving a shit about video reviews, reviewers, and those who give a shit about giving a shit about giving shit, are boners. But thanks, bro, for clarifying that one.
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EarlyNovemberBMX
rider
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posted 05-08-2009 02:09 AM
quote:
Originally posted by rooftop999:
Wait? Really? Because it hasn't been said six or seven times already.
K GOOD 1 BRO
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rooftop999
rider
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posted 05-08-2009 02:12 AM
quote:
Originally posted by EarlyNovemberBMX:
I'll point out (yet again) that Dig approached Kyle to write video reviews, not vice versa. Kyle doesn't necessarily think that his opinion matters, but Dig DOES think so.
One could also argue that if someone goes through the trouble of electronically publishing their rejected video reviews, then they could necessarily think their opinions matter. lol i rite [This message has been edited by rooftop999 (edited 05-08-2009).]
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EarlyNovemberBMX
rider
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posted 05-08-2009 02:15 AM
quote:
Originally posted by rooftop999:
One could also argue that if someone goes through the trouble of electronically publishing their rejected video reviews, then they could necessarily think their opinions matter.lol i rite [This message has been edited by rooftop999 (edited 05-08-2009).]
I'm not gonna debate you, Jerry. I'm not gonna sit here and debate.
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rooftop999
rider
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posted 05-08-2009 02:20 AM
Oh for christsake.I still like you.
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rooftop999
rider
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posted 05-08-2009 02:25 AM
Actually, I most like you for this: quote:
Originally posted by EarlyNovemberBMX:
Yeah, they're sought after and all, because they were awesome for RIDING in. If I ever even consider spending $100 on riding shoes, I'll use that $100 towards a nice knife so I can cut my dick off instead.
Only a Brewers fan would try to work out 100 fucking bucks for a pair of shoes.
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twincitiesbmx
rider
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posted 05-08-2009 02:35 AM
quote:
Originally posted by rooftop999:
One could also argue that if someone goes through the trouble of electronically publishing their [b]rejected video reviews, then they could necessarily think their opinions matter.lol i rite [This message has been edited by rooftop999 (edited 05-08-2009).][/B]
i posted them because a number of people on here asked me to in a different thread. so, like, shut up.
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rooftop999
rider
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posted 05-08-2009 02:40 AM
quote:
Originally posted by twincitiesbmx:
i posted them because a number of people on here asked me to in a different thread. so, like, shut up.
Make me, fucking slave to the people.
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sanjosebmx
rider
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posted 05-08-2009 06:21 AM
quote:
Originally posted by rooftop999:
Life is demanding without understanding.
Goddamn, get a liberal arts degree and know everything.
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VxD
rider
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posted 05-08-2009 10:05 AM
quote:
Originally posted by EarlyNovemberBMX:
I'll point out (yet again) that Dig approached Kyle to write video reviews, not vice versa. Kyle doesn't necessarily think that his opinion matters, but Dig DOES think so.
But Dig doesn't think so enough to publish the reviews?
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BKFBM
noob
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posted 05-08-2009 10:11 AM
dig doesn't want to piss off advertisers.
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twincitiesbmx
rider
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posted 05-08-2009 10:28 AM
quote:
Originally posted by VxD:
But Dig doesn't think so enough to publish the reviews?
dig told me they wanted me to stick to things that i like and am being generally positive about in the future...sounds like since dolecki took over as the U.S. editor he wants to do things a little differently, or at least thats what i was told.
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EarlyNovemberBMX
rider
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posted 05-08-2009 10:51 AM
quote:
Originally posted by VxD:
But Dig doesn't think so enough to publish the reviews?
Not exactly, but I don't have the energy for this shit anymore.
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Wheelie Nelson
rider
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posted 05-08-2009 12:18 PM
Fuck Dig anyway.Fuck all the magazines.
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sandiegobmx
noob
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posted 05-08-2009 12:51 PM
Yeah!
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gregarette
rider
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posted 05-08-2009 12:56 PM
This thread is gay as all fuck.
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DixieBMX
rider
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posted 05-08-2009 01:01 PM
quote:
Originally posted by gregarette:
This thread is gay as all fuck.
Well, at least we can marry it in Iowa.
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EarlyNovemberBMX
rider
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posted 05-08-2009 01:03 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Wheelie Nelson:
Fuck Dig anyway.Fuck all the magazines.
Boom.
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mattistupid
rider
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posted 05-08-2009 01:31 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqAypbgaUKM&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fplayhimoffkeyboardcat.com%2F&feature=player_embedded
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dillybars
rider
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posted 05-08-2009 11:57 PM
quote:
Originally posted by mattistupid:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqAypbgaUKM&eurl=http%3A%2F%2F playhimoffkeyboardcat.com%2F&feature=player_embedded
i think that i hate you.
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woodlandsbmx
rider
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posted 05-10-2009 01:01 AM
i don't get why they didn't post the s and m review...?
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notepadboy
rider
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posted 05-10-2009 02:22 AM
Just looked at this thread for the first time and there are a few thing that stick out.
I always think of bike videos as something people do to much and become desensitized. Like wanking it. When you first figured it out you could probably do it an underwear catalog. Now its nothing short of a girl with 5 wieners in her (you know who you are.)When we first started riding, videos and magazines where so epic. I shit the front of my pants when I first saw road fools 7. and then again when I saw can I eat. Now it takes so much more to keep my interest. We get fed so much so fast that it takes a large amount for some to enjoy a video. Its the reason why I don't put artsy shots in my videos. I get straight to the point.I do understand the concept of making a video fun though. People don't buy my videos to watch people they never heard of do things every human does on a day to day basis(people don't buy my vids period  )they want to see riding and its impossible to please everyone and it seems to be getting harder and harder. Why? In my opinion, The internet. Its like a 24/7 reality show of the bmx world. We see things hot off the editing time line. We see progression daily instead of seeing it when the next big company drops there video. Seems like it would desensitize you after a while and if your asked for your opinion it might come off is a bit harsh do to seeing so much of the same thing day after day. I think reviews can be important and I think they have there place. Just like the internet. I think its naive to think your right based off of your opinion though. I like the way ride does there reviews. Didn't mind it the other way even thought my video wasn't to favored. Hell I even took some "constructive criticism" from it and now I wont accept bad filming from others no matter how good the trick is. Im an idiot. I ramble. But holy shit do I love bikes and everything and everyone associated with them.
and titties
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McPiffle
rider
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posted 05-10-2009 04:00 AM
quote:
Originally posted by notepadboy:
its impossible to please everyone.
true. and that shouldn't be the goal. figure out who is going to "get" your concept, and give that concept all you've got. if the people you're aiming for love it, then pat yourself on the back and disregard criticism from anyone else. if those target people aren't feeling your shit, then accept the criticism. a sophisticated video reviewer should be able to identify a video's intentions and whether or not it is successful in that regard. tearing apart the video's intentions is editorializing, and the bmx media doesn't really have a place for that. bmxboard and blogs are a good place to start, though.
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rooftop999
rider
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posted 12-15-2009 05:53 PM
I checked out who was browsing the board, and someone was editing a post in this bad boy.This was some pretty heated internetting right here.
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Wild Wood
rider
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posted 12-16-2009 05:29 AM
You know, a review does not equal stating your opinion, also a review does not necessarily have to be 100% focussed on the subject. An article of any kind should be about presenting interesting content. Generally reviews of BMX videos are of one form or another and thus boring, as they are either obviously for or against the subject. It's to cliche. Read some AA Gill reviews to learn how to make something mundane exciting.
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Lord Seth
rider
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posted 12-16-2009 09:57 AM
So Kyle, your brother is taller, leaner, and better looking than yourself. He also gets support from a legitimate bike company, has entered college at an accelerated rate, and has watched a BMX video while having sex.
My question to you is: How chapped is your ass?
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xtheoneyouforgot
rider
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posted 12-16-2009 12:43 PM
quote:
Originally posted by notepadboy:
Just looked at this thread for the first time and there are a few thing that stick out.
I always think of bike videos as something people do to much and become desensitized. Like wanking it. When you first figured it out you could probably do it an underwear catalog. Now its nothing short of a girl with 5 wieners in her (you know who you are.)When we first started riding, videos and magazines where so epic. I shit the front of my pants when I first saw road fools 7. and then again when I saw can I eat. Now it takes so much more to keep my interest. We get fed so much so fast that it takes a large amount for some to enjoy a video. Its the reason why I don't put artsy shots in my videos. I get straight to the point.I do understand the concept of making a video fun though. People don't buy my videos to watch people they never heard of do things every human does on a day to day basis(people don't buy my vids period )they want to see riding and its impossible to please everyone and it seems to be getting harder and harder. Why? In my opinion, The internet. Its like a 24/7 reality show of the bmx world. We see things hot off the editing time line. We see progression daily instead of seeing it when the next big company drops there video. Seems like it would desensitize you after a while and if your asked for your opinion it might come off is a bit harsh do to seeing so much of the same thing day after day. I think reviews can be important and I think they have there place. Just like the internet. I think its naive to think your right based off of your opinion though. I like the way ride does there reviews. Didn't mind it the other way even thought my video wasn't to favored. Hell I even took some "constructive criticism" from it and now I wont accept bad filming from others no matter how good the trick is. Im an idiot. I ramble. But holy shit do I love bikes and everything and everyone associated with them.
and titties
agreed
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